From: horsestorideon
Subject: Re: Crack. Front down forget the mane. [a Question. For Dave]
Date: November 6, 1998 4:09:45 PM PST
To: bearcub
Cc: exit2k, afw10, mrvisible, sowinski, sejohnst, shorning, gbrennan, emcgarry, and 22 more…
so, i guess i ejaculated for my first time when i was 11 or so, masturbating to stolen straight-porn from a friend’s brother…
what do you do with all that time and energy on your hands?
i was out in the coutnry:
lots of space
lots of time
not lots of people…
my choices consisted of what i could find in the media
[be it porn or periodical]
and what i decided to try out for myself.
being a sexually-vacant kid at the time
[i’d still never had sex]
i got interested in the idea of beastiality…
for the orgasm, yes
for their furriness, sure…
but i was intensely wishing i could get them pregnant and create a mutant off-spring that i could hang out with
[this is what i felt like in indiana; how about you?]
the only things i ever attempted to have sex with was a cat and a dog
the cat was female [i think] and i didn’t really try to fuck it…[i thought that hole was much too small… though it probably would have worked] just rub it’s furry belly on my cock…
it was kinda stupid and amounted to nothing.
i tried a dog next,
female.
her vagina was much too small for me to get inside
though i tried to loosen it up
i always felt like the dog didn’t like it
so i stopped after the first few attempts
[i always wore condoms… until i knew what i was doing i didn’t want to catch anything from the dog]
though i think i came once and tried to rub it into here
but hey,
no pups.
my sister then started raising dogs a few years later
[this was about three years after i’d ended the play with the first dog]
i was very interested in the dog’s cock because all male dogs i’d seen had been neuterd…
i jacked it off a few times…
odd thing, a dog’s cock…
odder thing: its orgasm.
when the dog starts fucking it loses control,
it’s hips jerk and shove
and if you look in its eyes
there’s almost a fear there;
a vancancy…
biological fucking: it does wonders to one’s own perspective to take part in another sort of animal’s sexual-being.
—
a man i once spoke with on the IRC called me on the phone
to talk with me for hours about what he’d like to do to me…
with me.
he wanted to kill me…
thought that be hot…
or, maybe, he’d take me to meet this other kid in texas who was 16
and i could choke this kid with my cock
[shoving it to fill his throat and using my hands to hold him there
not a “little death”, but…]
and he’d strangle me while i was killing him
and maybe we’d all cum at the same time
[back-ground data]
so then he just started talking about other things he’d like to force me to do
like take me to a bath house and force me to get fucked by many men,
bare-back’d
he said
“you know you will get sick, don’t you? — i’ll be there to watch you die”
i kept him on the phone to try and understand where he was comming from
[i’ve never let anyone off by just thinking they were “fucked up” or anything as simple as that]
he started talking about dogs…
and if i’d ever had sex with dogs
and how he and his friends had sex with dogs a lot
and would i like to get fucked by a dog?
and does that sound hot?
and he said
that when they cum in a person’s ass
they seem to lock up
and you can’t really pull them out until they get soft
which can take up to about a half-hour…
and they dig their paws into your shoulders…
if you try to pull them out they’ll hurt you…
—
so, lets see..
i’ve heard stories [or desires, at least]
but have you ever had sex with an animal besides a human?
and what were you doing with it?
[i mean, was it just to get off? seems a long way to go when you could just use your hands]
sure, we all like the “bear” culture and everything
but what is our beastiality-attraction here, david?
well
let’s take that inside:
sure, we all like the “bear” culture:
it helps us to remind us that we’re animals,
not fashion-victims
not husbands or wives
not “humans” as something seperate from all the other living creatures…
but what’s it like, fucking like an animal?
you got a big cock
yeah
biggest cock we’d ever seen
but what do you do with it?
you know: it’s not enough to get off
not enough to just have sex
[or is it? hmmm, that’s up to you, really: go look in a mirror]
but here’s the question:
what are you trying to accomplish with any act of sex you have with any animal you have it with?
bear or cub or otter or dog…
what do you think you might be breeding?